Cytat:Suárez has categorically denied racially abusing the Senegal‑born France player and the FA's investigators are having to consider the different context with which words that would be considered offensive in England are commonly used in Uruguay and other Spanish-speaking countries.

"Negrito", for example, could have shocking connotations for someone without full knowledge of the nuances of the language. But the counter-argument is that this is one of several derivations that are used in many countries, with no derogatory meaning – often in the same way someone could be called "pal" or "mate".

Cytat:Liverpool striker Luis Suarez has been charged by the Football Association following allegations of racism towards Manchester United's Patrice Evra.

samcro napisał(a):Evrę trzeba było opchnąć jak Real go chciał. Błąd Fergusona bo liczę dobrych meczów można na palcach jednej ręki policzyć od 2 sezonów

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samcro napisał(a):Evrę trzeba było opchnąć jak Real go chciał. Błąd Fergusona bo liczę dobrych meczów można na palcach jednej ręki policzyć od 2 sezonów

A kto by grał na lewej obronie? Sheasy (który też od sezonu 08/09 grał trochę gorzej)? Bo zakładamy, że Evra nie jest przyczyną urazów Fabio. Teraz byśmy mogli kupić Enrique, ale poprzednie sezony? Chociaż znając Fergiego, pewnie wystawiałby tam Evansa, a w razie problemów, właśnie John obstawiałby lewą flankę.

Poza tym, sprzedanie kolejnego naszego zawodnika do Realu byłoby jeszcze wyraźniejszym niż dotąd sygnałem, że Real ma kartę stałego klienta na Old Trafford.

Jaroldz napisał(a):

Intel napisał(a):Poza tym, sprzedanie kolejnego naszego zawodnika do Realu byłoby jeszcze wyraźniejszym niż dotąd sygnałem, że Real ma kartę stałego klienta na Old Trafford.

A nie ma :?: Co jakiś czas regularnie kupują od nas piłkarzy.

Cytat:Too much resting on Luis Suarez and Patrice Evra case for judgment to be rushed

Reputations are at stake. Livelihoods could be on the line. That’s why the Suárez-Evra case has gone into extra time. That’s why the three wise men on the independent regulatory panel are right to take as long as they require.

Justice has its own clock, the hands turning at a speed that best serves the evenhanded application of law, not satisfying the clubs or those of us obsessed with headlines and deadlines.

Those sitting in judgment on Luis Suárez, and effectively Patrice Evra, are not the type to hurry matters. Paul Goulding is a QC who has worked on many time-consuming cases, Brian Jones is an experienced county FA man, while Denis Smith is a veteran football figure. They will march to their own pace, nobody else’s.

Good. This case is so complex, involving Suárez’s argument of “cultural differences” in explaining his exchange with Evra, that the more extended deliberation the better. If Suárez is found guilty of racism, his reputation will be shredded. None of the ear-biting, handballing, giving-fans-the-finger previous will have anything on this furore.

Racism is a curse in society that needs exorcising and the FA would relish the opportunity to make a point. It would also be difficult to see how Suárez could continue at Liverpool if guilty. So much is at risk. Some believe the delay means merely the commission simply debates the length of punishment for Suárez. But would he meekly accept a short ban anyway? The stigma of being judged a racist would remain.

And this is the modern world. With club lawyers crawling all over this, Goulding’s commission will know that any ruling must be watertight. Because Suárez will appeal. Liverpool will appeal. The panel must be prepared for every eventuality.

Although not charged, Evra also finds his reputation in the dock. He is a distinguished French international, an occasional Manchester United captain, and his honesty is being scrutinised. Evra deserves that the commission takes its time.

And this is not simply about two individuals. Liverpool, a club committed to diversity campaigns, would be deeply embarrassed if one of their best players were labelled a racist and sent into Purdah.

United would not want the fallout of one of their professionals being called a liar. Whatever the outcome, the clubs need some private meetings to address the bile between fans over Suárez-Evra and other skirmish-points.

Friday night’s 36-word FA statement declared “no announcement on any decision” would come before Tuesday “at the earliest”. Those who have spent long enough around the FA during disciplinary cases, and you need a good book to wile away the waiting hours (Tolstoy or Tolkien usually suffices), will know the judgment is often released early to clubs to prepare public responses.

Even if the clubs are informed on Monday, Goulding, Jones and Smith will have spent almost five days reflecting on the complexities, emotions and high stakes of the case. Quite right.