muszeq napisał(a):gra nadal na lepszym poziomie od takiego Andersona.
Serio? nie przypominam sobie, abyś w tym sezonie napisał po meczu,w którym grał Scholes, żeby zagrał dobrze. O Brazylijczyku niemal co mecz można tak napisać. Powtarzam: Nikomu nie należy się miejsce w wyjściowej jedenastce za zasługi, czy za przywiązanie do klubu. Zdecydowanie potrzebny on jest w szatni, aby atmosfera w zespole była dobra, ale póki co precz z nim z boiska! Podobno gramy o majstra, a Scholes nie gwarantuje gry godnej mistrza Anglii... W środku lepszy jest przecież nawet Giggs, który jest nominalnym skrzydłowym (ale wiemy, że przez ostatnie 1,5 sezonu Giggs przyzwyczaił nas do lepszych meczów na środku).
Lol, nie muszę pisać po każdym meczu kto dobrze zagrał. Co więcej, nie mam tego w zwyczaju. Scholes już nie gra jak przed kilkoma laty, ale pod względem jakości podań to Anderson może mu śmignąc lache. Scholes to kreator, to człowiek, który rozpoczyna większość naszych ataków. Ani Giggs ani Anderson nie potrafią tego robić. Kiedy mają wolne miejsce i stoją bliżej bramki to owszem, ale nie jak Scholes, który nawet długie podania ma perfekcyjne. I przykładowo z takim Stoke wolę oglądać Scholesa w środku pola niż Andersona, bo Brazylijczyk ma spory potencjał, ale na dzień dzisiejszy nie jest w stanie kierować naszą grą.
Oj Maju, te twoje wypowiedzi. Zgadzam się z tym co Muszeq wyżej napisał i nawet nie chce mi się niczego dodawać.
Powiem tylko tyle. Jeszcze Ci, którzy tak szybko się od Paula odsunęli poczują co to znaczy brak takiego piłkarza. Bo na tą chwilę nie mam zielonego pojęcia kto mógłby go w przyszłości zastąpić. Najbliżej ma Carrick, ale on aż tak wybitnym piłkarzem nigdy nie będzie. Dlatego cieszmy się każdym jego występem, bo stać go jeszcze na wiele. Zapomnijmy o słabszym okresie. Liczę, że powrót po kontuzji wniesie jeszcze wiele dobrego do gry zespołu.
A tak btw. Dla mnie Paul Scholes jest jedynym piłkarzem w środku pola- na przestrzeni ostatnich kilkunastu lat, który potrafił się poziomem zbliżyć do gry Zinedine Zidane'a. Chyba nie wierzycie, że Anderson może kiedyś przejąć jego rolę?
To co przeczytałem, to obrazuje Scholes'a sprzed dwóch, trzech lat. Od dwóch lat nie pamiętam dłuższej serii kapitalnych występów Anglika. Jedyne co mu zostało "nienaruszone" do tej pory to uderzenia z daleka. Szkoda jednak, że facet teraz decyduje się na nie rzadziej niż kiedyś ;/ Dzisiaj kapitalne występy Scholes'owi zdarzają się tak często, jak Andersonowi.
Czy dla was na prawdę obecna forma Anglika jest lepsza niż obecna Andrsona, czy na wasze zdanie bardziej wpływa fakt, że Scholes jest żywą legendą klubu...
maju napisał(a):Czy dla was na prawdę obecna forma Anglika jest lepsza niż obecna Andrsona, czy na wasze zdanie bardziej wpływa fakt, że Scholes jest żywą legendą klubu...
Faktycznie o obecnej formie Scholesa mogę wiele napisać :?
Scholes to faktycznie żywa legenda, ale jego umiejętności i doświadczenie, osiągnięcia - mówią same za siebie. Póki co Anderson powinien przypatrywać się Anglikowi, póki może, żeby wiedział o co be, i jaka będzie jego rola w United za kilka lat.
Zawodników oceniam pod względem przydatności dla drużyny. Anderson jest ambitny, dużo biega, ale pod względem podań nie może równać się do Scholesa. Tacy zawodnicy jak Anglik są niezbędni, bo nie każdy potrafi kreować grę zespołu. Wydaje mi się, że wielu ludzi patrzy poprzez pryzmat oczekiwań. Anderson jest młody to nie oczekujmy od niego zbyt wiele, a Scholes jako zawodnik doświadczony powinien mieć każdym meczu 10 kluczowych podań. Tak nie można patrzeć. Scholes>Anderson. Nie wiem co niektórzy widzą w Braylijczyku, bo jak dotąd nie udowodnił, że warto było wydać na niego pieniądze. Choć wiem, że ma jeszcze na to czas.
Teraz pojawiła się wiadomość, że Paul być może będzie dostępny na spotkanie w CC z Blackburn. Choć pewnie to trochę za wcześnie. Co prawda ostatnio mówiło się o derbach z City, ale jeśli już takie informacje się pojawiają to oznacza, że powrót Scholes'a jest coraz bliższy. Wszystko się okaże jak będzie wyglądać na treningach.
W ostatnich grach coś środek pola nam przygasł, więc impuls w postaci powrotu takiego piłkarza może bardzo wiele zmienić.
Powrót Paula w meczu CC z Blackburn tak jeśli będzie sprawny to ewentualnie może wejść po przerwie na jakieś 20-30 minut. Powrót Scholesa tak, ale nie za wcześnie. Nie ma nic gorszego niż za wczesny powrót- ale w United są specjaliści, którzy na pewno nie pozwolą na jakiekolwiek ryzyko.
sebos_krk napisał(a):W ostatnich grach coś środek pola nam przygasł, więc impuls w postaci powrotu takiego piłkarza może bardzo wiele zmienić.
Carrickowi przyda się mały odpoczynek, a Scholes potrafi w godny sposób zastąpić- jego powrót wszystkim wyjdzie na dobre
Cytat:Czy Paul Scholes od przyszłego sezonu będzie grał w Stoke City? Działacze „The Potters” zamierzają złożyć legendarnemu pomocnikowi Manchesteru United zaskakującą ofertę – donosi dzisiejszy Daily Mail.
Scholes w zespole Stoke City miałby pełnić rolę grającego trenera. Angielski napastnik trenerskiego fachu uczyłby się pod okiem obecnego menadżera Stoke Tony’ego Pulisa.
Dziennik donosi, iż Stoke jest gotowe zapłacić kwotę odstępnego za pomocnika, jaką zażyczy sobie Manchester United. Decyzję w ciągu najbliższych kilku dni musi jednak podjąć sam zawodnik.
Szczerze to wątpię, żeby Scholes odszedłby z United przed zakończeniem kariery. Fakt, ten sezon w jego wykonaniu do najlepszych nie należał, ale żeby od razu odchodzić? Poza tym nie wiem, czy rozwiązanie w formie grającego menadżera w dzisiejszych czasach na najwyższym szczeblu rozgrywek będzie dobrym pomysłem.
Wcześniej była też mowa o Boltonie i to nie jako grający menedżer, tylko pełnoprawny piłkarz
Mówiono, że tam gra opierałaby się właśnie na nim, a jego tygodniówka sięgałaby granic 70 tys. funtów. Ale znając Paula to wątpię, aby zmienił klub.
Gdzie by mu się chciało bawić w przeprowadzki. Dom trzeba kupować nowy, wszystko w nowym mieście załatwiać. W Stoke byłby w centrum uwagi. Paul tego nie lubi. Zostaje
Sto lat Paul :* 35 lat na karku u naszego rudzielca
I paczka cytatów o Paulu.
recafe.net napisał(a):“Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team - that goes to show how highly I have always rated him. He would have been one of the first players I’d have bought, given the chance”
Marcello Lippi
"I have no hesitation in putting a name to the embodiment of all that I think is best about football," said Charlton. "It's Paul Scholes.
"Many great players have worn the shirt of Manchester United. Players I worshipped, then lost with my youth in Munich.
"Players like Denis Law and George Best who I enjoyed so much as team-mates and now, finally, players I have watched closely in the Alex Ferguson era. And in so many ways Scholes is my favourite. I love his nous and conviction that he will find a way to win, to make the killer pass or produce the decisive volley.
"When a game reaches a vital phase, these qualities seem to comeout of his every pore. He's always on the ball, always turning on goal.
"He's always looking to bring other people into the action and if he loses possession you think he must be ill."
"I'm so pleased for Paul," said Charlton. "After what happened when he missed the Bayern Munich final, he deserves to be in Moscow more than anyone.
"He loves the club, he loves his family and is a true professional.
It would be fitting for him to win the European Cup after the fantastic career he has had."
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'Some of Paul Scholes' tackles come in so late they arrive yesterday'
- Clive Tyldesley -
'The aim for any of us at United is to become like a Keane or a Stam and play most weeks'
- Paul Scholes -
"My ideal day? Train in the morning, pick up the kids from school, go home, play with kids, have tea, get them up to bed, and then come down to watch a bit of TV. I don't get hassled. I can go anywhere I want to. Nobody stops me from going down to Tesco's. I'm recognised, of course, and I get asked for my autograph but it is never a problem. I've never been conscious of losing out on big money because of the way I've wanted to live my life. I've never turned down big commercials because I'm shy. It's just the way I've been. I did get a boot contract once. But no, I haven't earned much outside the game. Maybe it's because I'm not good looking enough."
Paul Scholes
Micah Richards : "He's always in the right position, always seems to be at the end of the box when the ball drops in. The complete midfielder - when he's fit, he's the best. Some go missing but he's in the right place at the right time. He's my favourite player of all-time, unbelievable. If you give him a chance it's a goal, isn't it?"
Glenn Hoddle : "There isn’t a player of his mould anywhere else in the world."
Terry Venables : "He’s the best one- or two-touch passer in the country. He sees the game unlike any other player."
Alan Shearer : "If you ask footballers to pick out the player they most admire, so many of them will pick Paul Scholes. He can tackle, and his passing and shooting is of the highest level. He’s the most consistent and naturally gifted player we’ve had for a long, long time."
Eidur Gudjohnsen : "I'm more an admirer of Paul Scholes than I am of Ronaldo. Ronaldo is a fantastic player, but he has 10 other great players around him every week...Scholes is one of the most complete footballers I've ever seen. His one-touch play is phenomenal. Whenever I have played against him, I never felt I could get close to him."
Edgar Davids : ""Every one of us (midfielders) is just trying to become as good as him. Everyone can learn from Paul Scholes."
Edgar Davids : "I'm not the best, Paul Scholes is."
Tony Adams : "I really rate Paul Scholes, because he hasn't got the high profile of many of the Manchester United players, he doesn't get too much attention, but he is one very good player. He is an intelligent player, he works hard and he scores some great goals. He is not flamboyant and is a quiet lad off the pitch but he is a tremendous asset to Manchester United and to England. He has already got my vote as player of the year."
Cesc Fabregas : "He is the one whose level I aspire to. He is the best player in the Premier League."
Patrick Vieira : "The player in the Premiership I admire most? Easy - Scholes."
Thierry Henry : "I can't understand why Scholes has never won the player of the year award. He should have won it long ago. Maybe it's because he doesn't seek the limelight like some of the other 'stars'."
Zinedine Zidane : "My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder."
Zinedine Zidane : "Scholes is undoubtedly the best midfielder of his generation."
Sam Allardyce : "There is not a better midfield player in the world."
Kevin Keegan : "What United have got that Chelsea haven't is Paul Scholes. I think he is different to anything else in English football."
Marcello Lippi : "Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team - that goes to show how highly I have always rated him. Scholes is a player I have always liked, because he combines great talent and technical ability with mobility, determination and a superb shot. He is an all-round midfielder who possesses character and quality in abundance. In my opinion, he's been one of the most important players for United under Sir Alex."
Ray Wilkins : "I'm saddened because I think we as spectators, not only in this country but right through out Europe and the rest of the World, will be missing one hell of a footballer."
Gordon Strachan : "Paul Scholes has been the best England midfield player for 30-odd years. You'd probably have to go back to Bobby Charlton to find someone who could do as much as Scholes. When the ball arrives at his feet he could tell you where every player on that pitch is at that moment. His awareness is superb."
Veron while at Chelsea being asked in an interview who's the best english player : "Paul Scholes."
Peter Schmeichel : "People say he is a great player, but you have to define what a great player is, For me, it is a player who has a bottom level that means his worst performance is not noticed.If he is having a bad game, a team-mate might feel Paul Scholes is not quite on his game, but a spectator wouldn't notice. Scholes, of all the players I have played with, has the highest bottom level. His reading of the game is unsurpassed.He has an eye for a pass, for what the play or the game needs at that precise moment, that I have never seen anyone else have. He controls and distributes the play and the game better than anyone I have ever seen."
Peter Schmeichel : "Still the best player in that United midfield."
Laurent Blanc : "Scholes is the best English player. Intelligence, technique, strength... all the attributes are there. At Manchester United I saw what he could do on the training field. Phew!"
Michael Carrick : "Paul Scholes is just fantastic. When you play alongside him, you realise what a special talent he is."
Michael Carrick : "He is a legend and he's going to be remembered for a long time. Just to play alongside him and learn from him has been an absolute pleasure. I think he is a footballer's footballer; he has been at this level for so long. As long as he is part of us we always feel we have a chance. We appreciate the way he goes about his business. I have never met a character like Scholesy; certainly not someone who is that good."
Park Ji Sung when asked by the club’s official home page which United player he would like to see in the red shirt of the Taeguk Warriors : “It has to be Paul Scholes.”
David Beckham said that, among his teammates at Real Madrid, which included Zinedine Zidane, Raúl, Ronaldo, Luís Figo and Roberto Carlos, Scholes was the most admired opponent : "He's always one of those people others talk about. Even playing at Real Madrid, the players always say to me 'what's he like'? They respect him as a footballer, and to have that respect from some of those players is great."
Brian Kidd : "Paul Scholes had the best football brain I'd ever seen in a kid. Let's face it. Paul Scholes is in a class of its own."
Rio Ferdinand : "I can honestly say Paul is the best player in the England squad. For me he is the complete player."
Rio Ferdinand : "For me, it's Paul Scholes. He'll do ridiculous things in training like say, "You see that tree over there?" - it'll be 40 yards away - "I'm going to hit it". And he'll do it. Everyone at the club considers him the best."
Phil Neville : "Paul, for me, is the best player in the England team. It worries teams. Speak to any other international team and they will single Paul out as England's key player. For me, he doesn't get the full credit that he deserves. He is a world-class player and deserves to be up there with the likes of Zidane and Figo."
Gary Neville : "I wouldn't swap Paul Scholes for anybody. He is quite simply the most complete footballer I have ever played with. He is the best."
Gary Neville : "Paul Scholes is the best player I've ever played with. There's talent in every part of his game."
Steve Bruce : "He's the best player in Britain in my opinion and he has to get himself fit just before we are due to play at Old Trafford. I cannot pay Paul a bigger compliment than to say that he's the most complete footballer in the country. The best bar none."
Roy Keane : "An amazingly gifted player who remained an unaffected human being."
George Best : "To be honest I think England have lost their best player. Certainly he's the most consistent and naturally gifted player we've had for a long, long time."
Sir Bobby Charlton : "I am sorry for England because they don't have any player like him. You can talk about others but there is no one else like him. He is the best technical player England has without any question. He could have had a lot more caps if he had carried on. And if I was the manager he would have ended up with more than I did – easy"
Sir Bobby Charlton : "He’s always so in control and pinpoint accurate with his passing – a beautiful player to watch."
Sir Bobby Charlton : "Paul Scholes is my favourite player. He epitomises the spirit of Manchester United and everything that is good about football."
Sir Alex Ferguson : "Very few players can do that, but Scholes is one of them - and I knew he was one of them. That's why, without question, I think Paul Scholes is the best player in England. He's got the best skills, the best brain. No one can match him."
Sir Alex Ferguson : "He has an awareness of what’s happening around him on the edge of the box which is better than most players. As a kid he always had a knack of arriving in the penalty area just at the right time, but he’s proving just as effective from outside the box because he’s using his experience in the right way. It doesn’t matter who I am thinking about bringing into my midfield, Paul Scholes will be included, as he would in any side in the world."
Sir Alex Ferguson : Sir Alex Ferguson gave evidence in court on behalf of one of his former trainees and listened to the prosecution barrister's list of United's top players.
"You've missed Paul Scholes - and he's my best player," Ferguson chided her.
"People say he is a great player, but you have to define what a great player is, For me, it is a player who has a bottom level that means his worst performance is not noticed.If he is having a bad game, a team-mate might feel Paul Scholes is not quite on his game, but a spectator wouldn't notice. Scholes, of all the players I have played with, has the highest bottom level. His reading of the game is unsurpassed.He has an eye for a pass, for what the play or the game needs at that precise moment, that I have never seen anyone else have. He controls and distributes the play and the game better than anyone I have ever seen" Schmeichel told BBC Sport.
"You have a special chemistry with certain players," explains the Dutchman, "and with me, at Manchester United, it's with Wayne Rooney and Paul Scholes. Things just seem to click. What I like most about Paul, though, is that he is the epitome of a professional footballer, He comes to training, then goes home and spends his time with his family. He doesn't like all the hoo-ha outside the football, the interviews with papers and on TV. He prefers to just live his own life and he refuses to be a media object or a public figure. I have nothing but admiration for him." Van Nistelrooy told FourFourTwo
“He has an awareness of what’s happening around him on the edge of the box which is better than most players. As a kid he always had a knack of arriving in the penalty area just at the right time, but he’s proving just as effective from outside the box because he’s using his experience in the right way. It doesn’t matter who I am thinking about bringing into my midfield, Paul Scholes will be included, as he would in any side in the world.” - Sir Alex Ferguson
“If you ask footballers to pick out the player they most admire, so many of them will pick Paul Scholes. He can tackle, and his passing and shooting is of the highest level. He’s the most consistent and naturally gifted player we’ve had for a long, long time.” - Alan Shearer
“England don’t have another player like him. He could have had a lot more caps if he had carried on. And if I was the manager he would have ended up with more than I did – easy." - Sir Bobby Charlton
“Paul Scholes is just fantastic. When you play alongside him, you realise what a special talent he is.” - Michael Carrick
“There isn’t a player of his mould anywhere else in the world.” - Glenn Hoddle
“When he played in the junior sides he used to have his own personal fan club that would come just to watch him!” - Eric Harrison
“I first saw him play when he was 16 – he was a scruffy little urchin! But the special thing about him was that he had the football brain to go with the talent. He had a natural instinct to make the right decision 99 per cent of the time – something you just can’t coach. Even now, when I watch academy games I still judge players coming through against Scholesy.”
Gail Millar (United fan)
“He’s the best one- or two-touch passer in the country. He sees the game unlike any other player.” - Terry Venables
Kiedyś zdecydowaną większość z tych wypowiedzi czytałem, ale fajnie jest to zebrać w jedną kupę
Mam tylko nadzieję, że ci co teraz psioczą na Fergiego, że "wciska do składu weteranów" zrozumieją za kilka lat jakiego świetnego piłkarza mogli oglądać. Rudy to geniusz, oglądałem go niemal od samego początku jego przygody z United. Szkoda, że w sezonie 2006/2007 w żaden sposób nie został nagrodzony za genialny sezon - zasługiwał na to.
Chyba Gaz, Ryan, Paul i Keano razem wzięci nie zdobyli tylu indywidualnych trofeów co np. Ronaldo. Oczywiście mówię tutaj o poważnych nagrodach. Strzelam w ciemno, mogę się mylić.
