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Tom Cleverley
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Post: #110
RE: Tom Cleverley
Tak, na tamta chwilę trudno się było dziwić Fergusonowi, że nie posyła w bój piłkarza, który gra przeciętnie w rezerwach. Jeśli ktoś miałby być zły po ogłooszeniu składu na Rovers, to Anderson.

Nie jest ważne to co jest teraz. Dla samego Pogby to było najlepsze wyjście, my jednak nie mamy sobie nic do zarzucenia. Paul nie dawał powodów do tego, żeby grać więcej. Zresztą na jego temat pisałem już w innym temacie, więc nie ma sensu powielać dyskusji. Wystarczy, że wkleję post z redcafe MR.MUJACa, znanego zapaleńca drużyn młodzieżowych, wieloletniego fana United.
Cytat:Let's talk about what really happened...

1. He had an outstanding 2010/11 season helping us win the FA Youth Cup and was a major 'potential' talent alongside Ravel Morrison

2. His form in the reserves during 2011/12 was very average

3. Fergie gave him a run out in all three League Cup games and he did ok without doing anything brilliant

4. The game against Blackburn saw us suffer terrible injury problems and Fergie played an experienced international midfielder in Ji Sung Park and took a gamble on Rafael as Carrick played centre half...when it didn't pay off he brought on more experience in Anderson at half-time. Pogba had three sub appearances behind him and was putting in average performances in the reserves. There was no logical reason Fergie would have started him and if anyone should have been pissed off that Rafael was starting it was Anderson.

5. Ferguson offered Pogba a new contract but the agent wanted a 'guarantee' of first team football. Ferguson doesn't guarantee any player a first team place so why would he do so with an inexperienced 18 year old?

6. Fergie gave Pogba more first team experience in the league and in Europe but he still decided not to sign a contract even though Fergie assured him he would get more chances this term regardless of his poor showing for the reserves during 2011/12

7. At the end of the season the agent spoke to numerous clubs and the player and his agent decided a move to Juventus would be better.

8. Fergie once again spoke to the player who refused to budge.

9. The player moved to Italy.

So, that's basically it.

I spoke to another agent who looks after youth players and in their opinion Pogba was 'badly advised' and the United offer was 'in line with other players of the same age, experience and potential'.

So either he or his agent was asking for 'guarantees' that were not forthcoming - understandably - and Fergie was reluctant to give someone a start in an important league game whose form didn't merit it.

When Tom Cleverley was asked about Scholes return...he said he was 'delighted because he had the opportunity of learning from him'...

Pogba left because he/his agent were impatient and wanted to dictate terms to the club.

Other more famous players have tried that in the past and got nowhere.

Pogba just didn't want to play for us so the club let him go.

All this talk of 'the one who got away' or 'we dropped a clanger' is basically bollocks.

Finally, we have the best record in the football league of bringing kids through and giving youngsters a chance. We don't need to look in the mirror at all when it comes to youth development.

Cytat:Sory, ja tego nie widzę, dla mnie to jest ten sam zawodnik co rok temu. Może tylko trochę mniej kontuzji łapie.
To, że Ty nie widzisz to nie znaczy, że tego nie ma. Poprawił chociażby grę w defensywie.

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